Comments on: Hamtun H2 Kraken Review – A Wild Kickstarter Success Delivers….But Not Without Labor Pain https://twobrokewatchsnobs.com/hamtun-h2-kraken-review-a-wild-kickstarter-success-delivers-but-not-without-labor-pain/ Horology Bar Talk Tue, 07 Jun 2022 21:49:28 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2.2 By: Mark Signorelli https://twobrokewatchsnobs.com/hamtun-h2-kraken-review-a-wild-kickstarter-success-delivers-but-not-without-labor-pain/#comment-15220 Tue, 07 Jun 2022 21:49:28 +0000 https://twobrokewatchsnobs.com/?p=66912#comment-15220 In reply to Laurent Guerder.

Hi Laurent,
I’m so sorry for this late reply. Unfortunately, I sold this watch last year and the spare links went with it. I don’t have any other suggestions (other than soliciting for links on WUS, Reddit, etc.) Good luck in your search!
Regards,
Mark

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By: Laurent Guerder https://twobrokewatchsnobs.com/hamtun-h2-kraken-review-a-wild-kickstarter-success-delivers-but-not-without-labor-pain/#comment-14918 Sat, 21 May 2022 21:54:18 +0000 https://twobrokewatchsnobs.com/?p=66912#comment-14918 Hi Mark, I am looking for a H2 link. Ross wrote me several times he will send me one but I never got it. If you still have the one you took off, I’ll be happy to buy it from you. I am a retired French journalist living now in Greece. Tell me about price and shipping and I’ll pay you (with PayPal ?) Thank you for your help ! Laurent

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By: Johnny H https://twobrokewatchsnobs.com/hamtun-h2-kraken-review-a-wild-kickstarter-success-delivers-but-not-without-labor-pain/#comment-4015 Wed, 11 Nov 2020 01:04:45 +0000 https://twobrokewatchsnobs.com/?p=66912#comment-4015 Nightmare. Waited forever to get my watch. Watch arrived broke . It was shipped from the UK to the US flopping around in a bag. That’s it. No box, no warranty info, just thrown in a bag. Emailed Ross the day I received it. He told me to ship it to his US repair guy, Jeff Duschane and he would refund me the shipping fees. Time went by, tried contacting Ross numerous times about my watch repair with basically no response. 5-1/2 months later it shows up from the repair guy. I was finally going to be able to enjoy my watch! Nope. Still broken. Same problem. Rotor seperatated from the moment. Still no response from Ross. I took it upon myself to have the rotor replaced with a new part by a local watch maker. So between shipping, parts, and labor I was about about $90 just to make my new watch work. I’ve tried unsuccessfully to reach Ross about my refund. Still nothing. We are still waiting on the ratchet clasp. Good luck on that. I honestly feel Ross ran out of money, launched H3. Soon as that funded he started shipping more H2’s. This is a Ponzi scheme. Launch new projects to fund and deliver the previous one. The Phantom watch which was Ross side project has had no updates or communication. No one has received a watch. The H3 campaign looks like it isn’t living up to the promises either. This had completely ruined this brand and any credibility that Ross had. Don’t waste your time or money on any project that Ross Davis is trying to promote.

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By: Ko https://twobrokewatchsnobs.com/hamtun-h2-kraken-review-a-wild-kickstarter-success-delivers-but-not-without-labor-pain/#comment-3720 Fri, 23 Oct 2020 06:29:42 +0000 https://twobrokewatchsnobs.com/?p=66912#comment-3720 In reply to Mark Signorelli.

Mark, Ross is really bad at posting periodic updates. Doesn’t respond about the watches not received either.

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By: Ko https://twobrokewatchsnobs.com/hamtun-h2-kraken-review-a-wild-kickstarter-success-delivers-but-not-without-labor-pain/#comment-3718 Fri, 23 Oct 2020 06:24:59 +0000 https://twobrokewatchsnobs.com/?p=66912#comment-3718 In reply to jamie.

I backed H2 on Indiegogo and still haven’t received mine either Jamie. It’s one of those things that I’m reminded about every month or so, and it ticks me off.

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By: Ko https://twobrokewatchsnobs.com/hamtun-h2-kraken-review-a-wild-kickstarter-success-delivers-but-not-without-labor-pain/#comment-3716 Fri, 23 Oct 2020 06:19:00 +0000 https://twobrokewatchsnobs.com/?p=66912#comment-3716 Mark, I’m surprised, and honestly none too pleased that you’re giving Hamtun publicity on TBWS which prides on the non-BS. I can only describe how Ross has carried this H2 project as abysmal. I would not consider him trustworthy for many reasons.

1. “Watch not delivered”
Many backers on Indiegogo, including myself, have still not received the H2 watch. That is crystal clear from the comments section there, where Ross has apparently not addressed single complaint raised about the watch not received. He’s taken off completely with many backer’s money.

2. Shipping
Oh god, the shipping. For whatever thought process that is outside of my logic, Ross decided to go forward with a shipping company that didn’t provide any tracking information for each shipment. When he is managing a 2000+ watch project, I don’t understand why this decision made any sense.

3. Communication
It’s become abundantly clear that he is too introverted as a business owner – the silent treatment is his signature. Instead of leaving occasional updates on the project page to inform the backers where things are, he just tries to deal with the comments flooding in, and bemoans that he spends all his time dealing with the comments. Many of the comments during the project had to do with his lack of updates, so some of his own pain was self-inflicted. I’m amazed by the apparent stubbornness that has prevented Ross from taking in the feedback about the updates, that his backers have reiterated time and time again.

4. Cringey Social Marketing
He’s engaged in pretty NSWF (for the lack of better term) marketing on Instagram, posting nude photos of a model (supposedly his personal acquaintance) on the Hamtun page. It didn’t help with the brand image, but he stuck with the fact that he’s “just helping out a friend.” I still don’t understand why he insisted that it had to be nude shots. One reason that I’m surprised by this review, is that Mike and Kaz on the podcast seem to be against sleazy marketing.

5. “Prototype in production”
One of the key additional feature that Ross pursued after the KS campaign closed was the ballbearing bezel that you mentioned. This severely delayed his project schedule, and he had to recall and fix the ball bearing design issues after the production started. Hindsight is 20/20, but poor risk assessment is a repeating notion in Ross’ operation.

6. Pricing
I don’t think most of his backers wanted some twisted race to the bottom. The H2 had a nice design to it, and most backers seemed to voice more comments about quality than whether the price point hit $300, $350, or whatever. If the prices were set higher, it could have opened more options to how he can run his business. Which leads me to…

5. The HR problem
Ross Davis, the “one man army.” Such delusion has been shattered into so many pieces. There’s this school of thought in Ross Co. that whatever the number of watches ordered, he can singlehandedly deal with it… while launching the next Kickstarter (H3) project, and peddling in the launch of sister brands. One can expect such business structure to implode given enough time. If only he could entrust the day-to-day operation with someone with better business acumen.

That is pretty much where everything is now. There seems to be a tragic loss in Ross’ family – that is truly sad and my condolence there – and there is no one to help keep things afloat. H2 backers still haven’t received their watches, H3 backers are left in the dark, same with the Phantom Caleuche backers, and god knows what happened to Basilisk Watch brand.

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By: Mark Signorelli https://twobrokewatchsnobs.com/hamtun-h2-kraken-review-a-wild-kickstarter-success-delivers-but-not-without-labor-pain/#comment-1623 Fri, 01 May 2020 00:27:11 +0000 https://twobrokewatchsnobs.com/?p=66912#comment-1623 Thanks Theodor. I agree with your sentiments about the value and I think the white dial would make a great GMT choice. I guess the movement is still up in the air until there is some clarity on supply.

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By: Theodor Rzad https://twobrokewatchsnobs.com/hamtun-h2-kraken-review-a-wild-kickstarter-success-delivers-but-not-without-labor-pain/#comment-1622 Thu, 30 Apr 2020 20:20:19 +0000 https://twobrokewatchsnobs.com/?p=66912#comment-1622 In reply to Wayne.

Great point, Wayne. This is why I have not pulled the trigger on the GMT as of yet.

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By: Theodor Rzad https://twobrokewatchsnobs.com/hamtun-h2-kraken-review-a-wild-kickstarter-success-delivers-but-not-without-labor-pain/#comment-1621 Thu, 30 Apr 2020 20:19:27 +0000 https://twobrokewatchsnobs.com/?p=66912#comment-1621 Nice write-up, Mark. I generally agree with your conclusions. I only received mine mid April, so yeah, the wait was tough. I for one never thought Ross was dishonest or flaky, just overwhelmed as you mention. I think most backers who had to wait an extended time (~4-5 months extra) felt similarly to me.

I have the meteorite version myself and find the tonality of the dial to compliment the silvery-gray titanium beautifully. The white dial was my second choice. I think I would like the black handset and lume trim from the white dial version more on the meteorite dial than the chrome it came with.

The Sellita has been humming along and was obviously well-regulated. My Timegrapher has the beat error @ 0.0-0.1 consistently, amplitude just over 300 after wearing it all day, and roughly +/- 5 s/day. Perfectly acceptable to me!

Overall, I think it’s an outstanding value and find Hamtun a trustworthy maker. I’ll probably go for the GMT H3 (in white!) if they’re not already gone.

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By: Tim Eckel https://twobrokewatchsnobs.com/hamtun-h2-kraken-review-a-wild-kickstarter-success-delivers-but-not-without-labor-pain/#comment-1590 Tue, 21 Apr 2020 20:05:23 +0000 https://twobrokewatchsnobs.com/?p=66912#comment-1590 In reply to m hagen.

Which model Seiko is made from Titanium, has a sapphire crystal and a ceramic bezel? Also, the 6309 is a turtle case, no? I believe there’s the SPRE05, but it’s comically large at 47mm! In many ways, the Kraken could be considered a pre-made Seiko SKX with all the custom mods already applied from the factory.

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